Vladimir Vavilov: ''Doctor Lisa was planning to send several seriously ill children to our hospice''

The interview with Kazan like-minded person of lost in the Tu-154 plane crash Elizabeth Glinka

Vladimir Vavilov: ''Doctor Lisa was planning to send several seriously ill children to our hospice'' Photo: ntv.ru

In the terrible air crash of Tu-154 among the passengers there was a Russian philanthropist Elizaveta Glinka, known as Doctor Lisa. She is famous for her activities of saving children. However, few know about her plans on Tatarstan. The head of the fund named after Angela Vavilova and a Kazan hospice Vladimir Vavilov, familiar with Glinka, in an interview with Realnoe Vremya told what he remembered and what projects she was planning to run with her Tatarstan colleagues.

''Spirituality was beating from inside''

Last weekend the tragedy happened over the Black Sea, Doctor Lisa died in it. Mr. Vavilov, how did you react to her death?

It was sad. It's a shame that such people who give their life for lives of others, die. I've known her only for three years. We together were awarded Vysotsky Award ''Own track''. We talked about a Kazan project because she opened hospices. She said that she wanted to visit the Kazan hospice. Elizabeth wanted to send some seriously ill children who were transported from the Donbass to our hospice. We often corresponded, talked by phone. The question was about children who needed palliative care we have in our hospice. We met three times, discussed these and other issues. By the way, January 20 is the 20th anniversary of the award of Vysotsky's ''Own track'' and I was hoping to meet her again. But it so happened that we will never meet. Let her rest in peace.

How do you remember Elizaveta Glinka?

She was a decent, holy person who gave herself completely to others, especially children. She felt the pain of others much stronger than her own.

What joint projects did you plan with her?

She said, ''If there are seriously ill children who need palliative care, can I bring them to you hospice?'' I said, ''When it is necessary, bring. We are always happy to help your children. Our doors are always open.'' But all this was in the context of the conversations. If she was alive we would finish the project.

''January 20 is the 20th anniversary of the award of Vysotsky's ''Own track'' and I was hoping to meet her again. But it so happened that we will never meet...'' Photo: Yulia Kuper (bnkomi.ru)

What her achievements do you admire of?

First, she opened the first hospice in Kiev. She was indifferent to the pain of others. In addition, she saved so many children from Donetsk, risking her life, she transported so many children who needed treatment, many times she was in the troubled regions. She was a brave person. At the same time, she was a fragile woman of small stature, and how much energy she had to serve people. It is not measured in physical strength, mood. Her spirituality was beating from inside, the spiritual strength was helping her.

''They are bastards''

In the Internet, especially social networks, after the crash there has been a surge of negative comments regarding Doctor Lisa and the Alexandrov ensemble, in which the victims were accused of serving the regime and other ''sins''. How did you react to the negativity?

They are bastards. I'm sorry, it's rude. But I do not consider them as human beings. Earlier, in old houses there were insects such as bugs. So, people squeezed them, you know? They did not have means to eliminate them, carbophos was not widely used. So these parasites were squeezed with fingers. These people do not understand the words. They understand only brute force. It is useless to prove something, to explain something, to discuss with them. They cannot even be called zombies, they are not humans.

''She saved so many children from Donetsk, risking her life, she transported so many children who needed treatment, many times she was in the troubled regions. She was a brave person. At the same time, she was a fragile woman of small stature, and how much energy she had to serve people.'' Photo: vk.com

Has your hospice honored the memory of Doctor Lisa?

On Mondays, we have a planning meeting. We had a minute of silence. The staff asked about her because they know that I knew her. I told them about her, everyone grieved. All civilized mankind mourns. But all these dross, it doesn't' worth paying attention to, as if it did not exist. We write something, respond to this negativity, but these people are only glad. They are surreptitiously peeping, they are being nourished by negative energy. They don't worth paying attention to. The dogs bark, but the caravan goes on. They will die themselves.

By Timur Rakhmatullin